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Post by mickmack on Nov 14, 2022 13:24:17 GMT
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Post by Bri M on Nov 14, 2022 15:20:26 GMT
Hi Mike.
I can't answer that one as the FaecesBook thing doesn't come under my remit and I'm such a curmudgeon that I don't touch all that Instatwitbook stuff.
If memory serves (and it may not,) I think Dale was the main man for the FB page - maybe he can throw some light on the matter.
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Post by mickmack on Nov 14, 2022 16:33:08 GMT
Hi Mike. I can't answer that one as the FaecesBook thing doesn't come under my remit and I'm such a curmudgeon that I don't touch all that Instatwitbook stuff. If memory serves (and it may not,) I think Dale was the main man for the FB page - maybe he can throw some light on the matter. Thanks Brian, It may be time to resurrect said FB page if it was fallen by the wayside and blow the dust off of some of the relics. M. |
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Post by steve on Nov 14, 2022 17:26:34 GMT
Like Bri, I don't want to live in the Social Media realm. I ask that if face book is used, the current means of communicating with members is retained.
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Post by Bri M on Nov 14, 2022 19:48:06 GMT
Mike, on a historical note, the Club website was rarely updated in the time before I got bushwhacked at an AGM into looking after it. More a "shop window" to prospective members and viewers, it didn't move quickly enough to keep anyone up to date with any happenings or events.
Along with word of mouth among those "in the know," FB was the primary method of communication for Club members. I can't comment on how inclusive, widespread or effective it's been because I never used it. Maybe those who frequent both it and this forum can give their views.
As for a "media presence", do we need something new? I'll be the first to admit that I don't "get" that sort of thing but things apparently progress (even when it often feels like steps backwards) and would the Club and members benefit from another app-based media doodah on our smartphones and computers? What would such things provide that this forum doesn't already?
Dinosaur? Moi?
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Post by mickmack on Nov 15, 2022 9:13:46 GMT
Like Bri, I don't want to live in the Social Media realm. I ask that if face book is used, the current means of communicating with members is retained. Steve, That would always be the case. Mike |
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Post by mickmack on Nov 15, 2022 9:27:55 GMT
Mike, on a historical note, the Club website was rarely updated in the time before I got bushwhacked at an AGM into looking after it. More a "shop window" to prospective members and viewers, it didn't move quickly enough to keep anyone up to date with any happenings or events. Along with word of mouth among those "in the know," FB was the primary method of communication for Club members. I can't comment on how inclusive, widespread or effective it's been because I never used it. Maybe those who frequent both it and this forum can give their views. As for a "media presence", do we need something new? I'll be the first to admit that I don't "get" that sort of thing but things apparently progress (even when it often feels like steps backwards) and would the Club and members benefit from another app-based media doodah on our smartphones and computers? What would such things provide that this forum doesn't already? Dinosaur? Moi? I run a few groups on FB, it's a useful way of interacting with others without being too stuffy. It allows some interaction with other groups or marketplace retailers/vendors and if used responsibly or fairly is often a tool for acquiring information. Its not to be taken too seriously and with the older generation there is bound to be some resistance. I mention it simply as a possible way or improving our profile to the outside world and giving us a modern interactive space, it may work it may not, but it certainly won't work if it's ignored or disregarded. Perhaps it may also encourage younger members and that cannot be perceived as a bad thing. As to an additional app, you either use FB or you don't, it wouldn't be essential to like the page, its not an alternative to the website. Perhaps the committee may discuss informally, I'll happily administer it. |
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Post by Bri M on Nov 15, 2022 19:22:56 GMT
I've always found it slightly odd and amusing that the Club has a Webmaster (that'd be me) that rejects Social Media. Bizarre choice for a role that involves communication but there you go.
The problem I have with FB and all the other Social Media doodahs is that, in the early days, I saw so many vacuous, superficial, short attention span muppets chasing attention, likes and the approval of strangers or people they barely knew and that coloured my opinion, something I find hard to change to this day. And that's before we get into the insiduous data collection and cynical targeted marketing.
But millions (if not billions) of people use it all the time so two throwbacks like Steve and I can probably be ignored in the great scheme of things - it is optional after all, at least at this point in time.
Mike, your offer to take the Club's online presence to a different level is much appreciated and, I agree, should be considered by t' Committee but I would propose taking things a step further. I've taken the Club Website and Forum as far as I can and it's maybe time for someone more Social Media savvy to take the reins.
And I propose you for the role.
My reasoning is -
Having met you, you're clearly a levelheaded guy with a sense of humour.
You write coherently (don't laugh - that's a real gift these days!)
You know this Social Media stuff.
You could tie in and coordinate all the strands (Website, Forum and Social Media) in a way that I couldn't.
Standing up for a Committee position at the AGM shows you're looking to serve and give something back. The rather clunky Non-Specific Aide title means no particular "portfolio" or area of responsibility - here's the opportunity to get your teeth into things!
What say you?
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Post by I on Nov 15, 2022 19:29:24 GMT
The fb page was/is there to keep in touch with more than just the 15 or so garc members that frequent this forum.It kept us in the loop of UK airgun shooting but it kind of fell by the wayside when garc stopped having a big presence at the hft comps.It posted competition dates,events and all sorts of frivolous gibberish/banter that comes with airgun shooting.It even had the odd very truthful,non sponsored gear review,which makes a pleasant change the usual "it's good for the price" review
Stagnation followed and,before you knew it,apathy reined and it was left to die a slow death.
if needed it could easily be resurrected.Just a case of a click or 2 here and there and Bob would in fact be you uncle again.
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Post by I on Nov 15, 2022 19:50:34 GMT
if needed it could easily be resurrected.Just a case of a click or 2 here and there and Bob would in fact be you uncle again. Update:
No it can't.It's officially dead
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Post by Bri M on Nov 15, 2022 21:26:22 GMT
A shame. Apathy is never far away in this neck of the woods and needs active and enthusiastic people to keep it at bay.
On the bright side, an opportunity for a fresh start.
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Post by Nicholas Kelly on Nov 15, 2022 23:15:22 GMT
Breaking news... YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have announced they are to merge. The new entity is to be called, YouTwitFace.
I'm always amazed at how much time the younger generation spend on social media (he says, writing a post to an online forum). But it does seem to be the way that most people, young and not-so-young, communicate these days. I suppose the advantage of having such a presence is the instant nature of the posts. Any information, updates, events diary, competition news, etc. is instantly in the hands of the members and lurkers (if they get their App settings right) and can be immediately shared, re-posted, replied to and so on. By comparison, the website and Forum are more passive forms of communication which members have to actively access. Horses for courses, each to their own, etc.
I do agree with Steve and Mike though - if we do add a Facebook or other similar presence, the website and Forum must be maintained and that the same information is posted simultaneously across all platforms. And direct emails to members should be kept for essential information, meetings, etc.
I second Mike to be the Social Media Czar, or whatever title may be bestowed upon the lucky recipient.
A pre-emptive Thanks and Well Done, Mike! (assuming you take it on, that is).
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Post by I on Nov 16, 2022 8:30:26 GMT
The other advantage is that fb actually reaches more people than this forum and it doesn't cost £287.88 a year
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Post by Bri M on Nov 16, 2022 8:59:29 GMT
A dead FB page reaches more people than this forum?
I should maybe add that this forum costs nothing apart from my time which I offer freely.
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Post by mickmack on Nov 16, 2022 9:36:51 GMT
Provisionally, I'd be happy to take it on.
However, I have never run a website before so would need some coaching/support/pharmacutical drugs/assistance, but I suspect once I get the hang of it and all that.
We'll discuss at committee initially to see what our goals are likely to be, so we are all sailing the same ship in the same direction.
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